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The 4GunGuy
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Hi everyone! I'm a Precision Rifle Shooting enthusiast. I try to provide a good overview of the equipment I use and some thought into how I decide on which equipment to purchase.
If you watch my reviews, you'll see that in most cases I use an excel spreadsheet to organize my thoughts and whittle the prospects down to a review-able group. I may not include all options due to price, quality from other reviews, or other factors, but the ones I do include are generally what you would consider as well.
I hope you enjoy my videos and that you'll join the "4GunGuy" family! Thanks for watching, and shoot straight!
If you watch my reviews, you'll see that in most cases I use an excel spreadsheet to organize my thoughts and whittle the prospects down to a review-able group. I may not include all options due to price, quality from other reviews, or other factors, but the ones I do include are generally what you would consider as well.
I hope you enjoy my videos and that you'll join the "4GunGuy" family! Thanks for watching, and shoot straight!
BCG Issues and The Fix
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Hi everyone! Replaced the factory BCG in my Seekins SP10 and it's running great now. Enjoy!
Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html
PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnGAzTBOhAws2KGxSWGPVrm.html
PRS 22LR - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPkTqDUC8rtzVp3ytV3Pur2C.html
PRS Centerfire - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPlB1psE1YHbP_QtvOSwQzlw.html
Reloading - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPmtOstRZXtc5heRfG47OYaS.html
PRS Accessories - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPk2A6gA7AfROnBUoyjXpwln.html
3-Gun Series - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnNKAnlfhWc7B65nG_6dicD.html&si=SjfdZYzEHdO5SXXp
Non-PRS Pistol/Rifle Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPkGAc6OpqHWgcdDoq3nTh9q.html
Match Videos - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnsXTLn0yqpktcM9etx8MsH.html
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You alone are responsible for the safety of yourself and your property.
Check local and state laws before undertaking any activity involving possessing, transporting, and shooting firearms. Check local and state laws before attempting to load ammunition or perform any modifications to a firearm. Always abide by the law. Always practice gun safety.
The content on this channel (including videos, ammunition reloading data, technical data, comments, and any other information contained within) is for demonstration purposes only.
Do not attempt any of the processes or procedures shown or described in this video or on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy).
Any reloading data supplied on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video, including any comments from viewers and readers must be assumed to be in error.
Always consult at least three sources of manufacturer's ammunition reloading data before reloading your own ammunition.
Do not attempt to repair or modify any firearms based on information found on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video.
Gunsmithing procedures should only be performed only by a licensed gunsmith.
The 4GunGuy can not be held liable for any harm caused to any individual or any personal property related to activities, procedures, techniques, or practices described in whole or part on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video.
By watching this video in whole or in part, you agree that you alone are solely responsible for your own safety and property as it pertains to activities, procedures, techniques, or practices described in whole or part on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video.
Hi everyone! Replaced the factory BCG in my Seekins SP10 and it's running great now. Enjoy!
Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html
PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnGAzTBOhAws2KGxSWGPVrm.html
PRS 22LR - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPkTqDUC8rtzVp3ytV3Pur2C.html
PRS Centerfire - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPlB1psE1YHbP_QtvOSwQzlw.html
Reloading - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPmtOstRZXtc5heRfG47OYaS.html
PRS Accessories - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPk2A6gA7AfROnBUoyjXpwln.html
3-Gun Series - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnNKAnlfhWc7B65nG_6dicD.html&si=SjfdZYzEHdO5SXXp
Non-PRS Pistol/Rifle Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPkGAc6OpqHWgcdDoq3nTh9q.html
Match Videos - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnsXTLn0yqpktcM9etx8MsH.html
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You alone are responsible for the safety of yourself and your property.
Check local and state laws before undertaking any activity involving possessing, transporting, and shooting firearms. Check local and state laws before attempting to load ammunition or perform any modifications to a firearm. Always abide by the law. Always practice gun safety.
The content on this channel (including videos, ammunition reloading data, technical data, comments, and any other information contained within) is for demonstration purposes only.
Do not attempt any of the processes or procedures shown or described in this video or on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy).
Any reloading data supplied on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video, including any comments from viewers and readers must be assumed to be in error.
Always consult at least three sources of manufacturer's ammunition reloading data before reloading your own ammunition.
Do not attempt to repair or modify any firearms based on information found on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video.
Gunsmithing procedures should only be performed only by a licensed gunsmith.
The 4GunGuy can not be held liable for any harm caused to any individual or any personal property related to activities, procedures, techniques, or practices described in whole or part on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video.
By watching this video in whole or in part, you agree that you alone are solely responsible for your own safety and property as it pertains to activities, procedures, techniques, or practices described in whole or part on this UA-cam channel (The 4GunGuy) or in this video.
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ScopeMate Scope Camera
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Scopemate S18 allows video and images through your scope! PLAYLISTS BELOW! Scopemate S18: nvscopemate.com/products/scope-camera-scopemate-s18 00:00 Intro 01:35 Unboxing & Overview 09:45 Backyard Views 10:06: 22LR Range Time 12:35 Centerfire Range Time 15:20 Final Thoughts Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnGAzTBOh...
3 Levels of Scopes for PRS
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PLAYLISTS BELOW!! At the range with three levels of scopes and thought I'd do a quick overview of each. Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 00:40 Overview 01:50 Discovery ED PRS Gen II 5-25x56 ($370) 05:05 Burris XTR Pro 5.5-30x56 ($2,600) 08:35 Vortex Razor Gen III 6-36x56 ($4,800) 12:20 Final Thoughts Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJ...
CVLife Bore Sight Kit Review
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CVLife sent this to me to review and I really like it much better than looking down the barrel to try and line up the scope! Enjoy! Professional Laser Bore Sight Kit: www.amazon.com/dp/B0CFYD9G71 10% Off code: CVLIFE0628 00:00 Intro 01:00 Unboxing and Features 04:15 Bore Sight at Range 07:26 Final Thoughts Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html PRS Practice - u...
Burris XTR Pro Scope
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My review of the Burris XTR Pro rifle scope for PRS/NRL. Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 01:35 Brief Unboxing 02:20 Features Overview 08:30 Specifications Overview 12:30 Back Yard Views 14:05 Range Views 17:05 Final Thoughts Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnGAzTBOhAws2KGxSWGPVrm.html PRS 22LR - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPkT...
Discovery ED PRS Gen II 5 25x56
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Hi everyone! Discovery asked me to review their Gen II scope and I think you'll be impressed, I know I was. If you're interested, please use the discount code(s) below to get a bit off and support the channel. Enjoy! amzn.to/3TJzXiP (10% discount code: The4GunGuy) discoveryopt.com (15% discount code: The4GunGuy ) 00:00 Intro 01:35 Unboxing 03:10 Specifications Overview 06:00 Functional Overview...
My Rifle Cleaning Process
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Trying a new product so thought I'd go over it and my process. Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 01:35 My Cleaning Process 03:35 Cleaning Materials 08:15 Bore Scope Dirty Barrel 09:20 Step 1 - ThorroFlush 10:50 Step 2 - ThorroClean 13:40 Step 3 - ThorroFlush 16:40 Bore Scope - 2nd Pass Results 19:30 Final Thoughts Tipton Cleaning Rod: amzn.to/4c8Jrux Dewey Chamber Cleaning Kit: amzn.to/3XvIdoH Cleaning Patche...
New Rifle Break-In
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SEE MY PLAYLEST BELOW THE AGENDA FOR QUICKER ACCESS TO RELEVANT VIDEOS FOR YOU... Agenda 00:00 Intro 01:00 Initial Cleaning 01:54 Function Testing 02:30 Validate Headspace & Cartridge Fit 07:50 Optics Mounting, Eye Relief, LOP 08:35 Balancing The Rifle 09:30 Bore Sighting For Zeroing 10:20 Initial Rounds & Adjustments 12:40 Barrel Break-In 14:30 Load Development 16:23 Final Thoughts Optics Revi...
Finding The Best Velocity Node...
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Part I of a two part series on finding your optimum cartridge build based on velocity AND seating depth. Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 01:24 Why Perform A Ladder Test? 05:15 Ladder Test Results 09:40 Group Results 10:54 Next Step Is Seating Depth Testing & Final Thoughts Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnGAzTBOhAws2KGxSWGPV...
Don't HATE The Wind!
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VIEW MY PLAYLISTS BELOW!! I'm trying to get better at shooting in windy conditions and am learning a lot from other shooters...Embrace the wind, don't fight it! Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 02:47 Analyzing a stage and assessing the wind 06:14 Translating our assessment onto a Stage Card 10:40 Dialing Versus Holding 14:05 Shooting the first stage and assessing results 16:40 How To Ask AND Answer What Wind...
Mixing Powder...Is That Crazy?
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Hi everyone, thought I'd do an experiment on whether we can get the same consistency when we mix powders...Results are interesting. Enjoy! Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnGAzTBOhAws2KGxSWGPVrm.html PRS 22LR - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPkTqDUC8rtzVp3ytV3Pur2C.html PRS Centerfire - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPlB...
My PRS Spotting Setup
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VIEW MY PLAYLISTS BELOW!! Thought I'd give you an overview of my PRS spotting setup...I've changed some things to make transport and setup very simple. Enjoy! Tripod: amzn.to/4dBddcD I would actually use these leg covers instead...Less expensive: amzn.to/3y9yPfS Antenna is a simple one: amzn.to/4amMXjk Binocular Eye Shade: amzn.to/3UBM6p1 Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2...
RO'd A PRS 2 Day Match...Thoughts and Observations
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VIEW MY PLAYLISTS BELOW!! Hi everyone! I RO'd my first 2-day PRS match and I can tell you that it's a lot harder than you think, so I thought I'd share my perspective...Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 00:55 Cost of Shooting a 2-Day Match 03:15 Match Course of Fire and Weather Conditions 06:30 How Shooters Did 09:31 Why Good Shooters Did Well and Some Good Shooters Didn't Do Well 14:40 The right way to quest...
New To PRS Watch This Video
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VIEW MY PLAYLISTS BELOW!! 00:00 Intro 01:25 Initial Observations of New Shooters 04:00 Basic Equipment Considerations 07:50 Rifle, Scope, and Trigger Considerations 15:10 Final Thoughts Optics Reviews - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPllUOTlwqqH2_hbu-xtLp3q.html PRS Practice - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPnGAzTBOhAws2KGxSWGPVrm.html PRS 22LR - ua-cam.com/play/PLShJs70nEJPkTqDUC8rtzVp3ytV3Pur2C.html ...
PRS Ammo Costs
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VIEW MY PLAYLISTS BELOW!! Hey everyone, thought I'd follow-up my PRS rifle and scope options with a video on ammunition costs...Enjoy! 00:00 Intro 01:20 Round Count Per Year Breakdown 03:45 Reloading Costs Breakdown 05:15 Off The Shelf Cost Breakdown 07:30 All Up Cost Comparison (6.5 Creedmoor) 11:35 All Up Cost Comparison (6mm BRA) 12:50 22LR Costs 13:50 Considerations For Either Path & Final ...
PRS Barricade with KYL shot The RIGHT Way!
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PRS Barricade with KYL shot The RIGHT Way!
Seekins SP10 First Match...The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly
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Seekins SP10 First Match...The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly
Velocity Considerations For PRS Shooting
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Velocity Considerations For PRS Shooting
PRS Match Stage Review - More To It Than You Think!
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PRS Match Stage Review - More To It Than You Think!
Case Head Separation...A REAL Danger
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Case Head Separation...A REAL Danger
PRS Stage Analysis - Shot Consideration
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PRS Stage Analysis - Shot Consideration
PRS Competition Scope Considerations
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PRS Competition Scope Considerations
Man does this video help someone that’s getting new into center/rim fire. Would you change anything from this tier list in an updated new video? Thank you again for helping new shooters and grow the sport. ❤
Getting into nrl22 for the first time. I’ve seen your great videos on scopes which are amazing. I’m more of the mindset “cry once” I just got a b14r and a CZ 457 varmint mtr. Thinking of using one for base and the other for production or open. Athlon, Tract, Burris XTR III, Or Pro? Or something else? Appreciate your input
Hi Omikurita! Please see my video on scope level comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/TxvWUw6Xebg/v-deo.html which should give you a good starting point with your research. Now, if buy once cry once is what you want, then I'd look at the tier 1 scopes and my preference in order would be (ZCO, Gen III, ATACR, TT). If you're wanting a more budget friendly but still good optics and functionality, the tier 2 preferences in order would be (Gen II, Cronus, Mark 5HD, XTR Pro). Again, this is just MY analysis, please make sure you're getting something for your age, eyes, reticle preferences, etc... For example, the Mark 5HD has 0.25 mil subtensions whereas the others are 0.20 mil subtensions, it might seem trivial, but if you're shooting two different scopes, you'll have to remember which is which. My point is that if you go with say, the Mark 5HD, then try to stick with it if you get into centerfire PRS. Hope this helps and makes sense and thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy thank you for your diligent response. To confirm your stating 1/10 MIL OR 1/4 MOA ADJUSTMENTS correct?
@@omikurita No, I mean that the MK5 has 0.25 mil subtensions whereas the others have 0.20 mill subtensions...If you look at the reticle, the mk5 will have 4 markings in between major markings (the 1.0, 2.0. 3.0 mil major marks for example), but the other will have 5 markings which will give you a 0.50 mil marking on the axis. In my scope videos I always talk about how I like a 0.50 mil mark and the 0.20 subtensions so I can think in that measurement instead of 0.25 mils...It's a small thing, but I've seen other shooters get one scope for one rifle and a mk5 for another one and get confused when they're shooting. Hope I explained it well enough, but they are both Mil reticle scopes.
@@The4GunGuy thank you for opening my eye on the reticle world. Just finished watching your razor gen 3 review and now I understand. You’re the best thank you.
I had always thought it would fun to get into prs shooting and last weekend I found out that there is a monthly match 20 miles away from me. Next month I’m planning on going as a spectator and soaking up all I can. I understand that me going out and plinking at my own leisure at whatever distance is going to be far different than shooting at a match. Thanks for the info you are giving to us inexperienced new guys.
Hi Dad_with-boys! Glad you found the video helpful and you'll be hooked the second you start watching that match! If you watch some of my practice videos, you'll get an idea of movement, positioning, stage planning, etc... Which should help as well. Thanks very much for watching my friend and feel free to reach out with questions via email (the3gunguy@gmail.com).
I’m getting into PRS in particular NRL22. How would you compare the Tract Toric UHD vs the Burris. I’ve been watching many of your videos on various scope
Hi Omikurita! I would definitely go with the TRACT over the Burris. Easier zeroing, better reticle, and I think a bit better glass. Hopes this helps and thanks for watching my friend!
I hope you are going to being this over to dayattherange and join the Captain America Challenge
Hi Dayattherange! I sold the CZ about a year ago and went with a Bergara, which gave me all sorts of trouble until my gunsmith did extensive work on the bolt. Seems as though every rifle has its issues today! Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy YOU WHAT say it ain't so. Well come join us with that Bergara.
Are you still using this? I might switch over to this before next season starts.
Hi 6Dasher! I am still using it on one rifle and bubble levels on the other two because of other accessories I've mounted. Still love it, but it's funny to see other shooters have the SendIt, turn it on, then not even pay attention to it during the stage. You really do need to train with it if you're serious about using one. Thanks for watching my friend!
I've really been thinking of trying to get into this but it seems like it's a rich person's sport and that the average person like me will never be able to afford it.
Hi JMC! It does seem expensive, and honestly, is fairly expensive. I just bought a new set of golf clubs, middle of the road and 2 year old models and for everything except the putter, I dropped $2k. I was thinking about it on the way home and thought, wow, for what I spent on 13 good clubs, would only get me a decent scope for PRS. From a event cost perspective, I think I said that a centerfire match would run around $185 - $225 depending on ammo cost. That's about three rounds of golf to one PRS match. A 22LR match would run you about $75 - $90 per match, so much cheaper. Sorry I'm drifting here, but short answer is yep, it's not a cheap sport, BUT, I think if you go the 22LR route, it's a lot cheaper and you have just as much fun. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy Oh I'm going to continue watching. Even going back for your older episodes. Let's say I go into this starting with rimfire. Do you have videos on doing that? Sorry, I haven't checked yet. Would it be a smooth progression eventually to get into center fire? Or if I stay in rimfire, how far does that go? I mean, are there championship matches in that as well? I guess I'm saying that, if I got hooked on this, I would want to become pretty competitive eventually.
@@jmc041071 Yes, rimfire is very competitive with national events. First, go to www.precisionrifleseries.com and for no other reason than to get great discounts on equipment, sign up for their lowest plan, which is rimfire. For $45 for the year, you get great discounts from sellers (see their memberships & rewards listing), which will save you hundreds or even thousands on equipment. I get nothing for telling you to join, I just tell everyone I can for the discounts they get. Then, look up the PRS matches on the site and see which region you fall under and the matches for that region throughout the year. Also, look at the rules so you understand what rifle/scope combo you'll want to look at for the division you want to shoot (production, open, etc...). 22LR is used to get into centerfire because it teaches you the process, positions, movement, wind, etc... at a reduced price, plus, you don't have to get into reloading! Hope this helps.
@@The4GunGuy yes that helps a lot! Thank you! I appreciate any info you can give me. Sorry if i ask a question that you've answered already in a video. I'm feeling a little overwhelmed at all the info im finding and i think I'm getting way ahead of myself and need to slow down a bit lol. I'm in east Texas. Point, TX. I've been on the website of the club or range that you use I believe....looks like it's about 3 hours or so from me. I will definitely get on that site you mentioned and see if there are matches closer to me. I really want to watch a match then later maybe get a loner rifle like you mentioned and try it out. I bet I'm going to get hooked on it as you've said. I've been scrolling through your videos, I saw you moved on from the Tikka 22lr. I'm going to be on a budget. Say 1200-1500. I'll try for more by the time I can purchase but I'm just thinking for right now. Would you still consider the Tikka or are there others now that someone like me should research?
Made my own for $40 ,quieter and more efficient.
Hi Dave! Yeah, I made my own as well...Need to get that video made. Thanks for watching my friend!
Dude, thank you for this video. I am very interested in entering the PRS shooting experience. I have been researching for a while now and what production rifle I will start with. I appreciate your take and advice on this subject matter.
Hi Brad! Thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it. I'm shooting more and more with folks who have gone the MPA production route and love it. For the money, that rifle is hands down, the best first PRS rifle you can buy in my opinion. I mean, it's basically my open rifle with a different barrel, and you'll have no problem competing right out of the gate with it. The rifle as is comes in at 16lbs according to the website, so you'll want to add another 4 - 6 lbs with weights. From a caliber perspective, that's up to you, but I would strongly suggest NOT doing what some have done, starting with something like a 6.5 Creedmoor so you can "get used to recoil". That logic for me is like saying I'm going to learn how to play golf with a professional set of bladed clubs like the pros use...You just wouldn't do it. Start with a recoil friendly cartridge like the Dasher, BR, BRA, GT (faster barrel wear), or even the 6mm Creedmoor, and you'll be very happy. I'm shooting a 6mm BRA and loving it. Well, good luck on your journey and please watch my other videos on shooting your first match and what to expect. Thanks again for watching my friend!
Have you ever used it out to a mile ? How did it do?
Hi Think! I haven't taken it past 1,100 yds, but it was clear at that distance. Not sure about a mile...Maybe someday. Thanks for watching my friend!
This was a well done video! Very informative!! 👍
Hi Eric! In total transparency, I've gone to a straight taper barrel now and have removed the tuner. I still think tuners have a place, especially in production or lighter barrels. Thanks for watching my friend!
I am not shooting any type of matches at the moment but I just bought a Bergara B14r and I have an Arken SH4J Gen 2 6-24 on it. I am just starting to dial it in and break the barrel in good but I have great luck with this scope. I never have felt I needed more even on my .308 out to 800 yards. I am trying to keep my scopes as close as I can for standardization.
Hi EP! That's a very good way of thinking about things. I did a video on standardization and for my 22LR and Centerfire Bolt Gun, I'm pretty much standardized now. It makes switching much easier. Thanks for watching my friend!
How accurate is it?
Hi AC! If you use the right collet to get a snug fit in the barrel, it will be pretty much aligned on the axis of the barrel. Now, with that said, the mounting of your scope is a different story, and that's why we're zeroing the scope. Thanks for watching my friend!
I’ve shot my AR dry as a bone using a sionics NP3 bcg for probably 1100-1200 rounds before putting any oil on it. A dry BCG should not get stuck in the buffer tube. I’d either replace the tube or the spring. If replacing the spring, check out the David Tubb flatwire spring.
Excellent video and thanks for sharing your thoughts and insights about this. I’ll definitely getting one.
HI Indio! Thanks for the kind words and for watching my friend! You'll love the case!
How do you put the battery in for the illuminated reticle?
I had a Oehler 35 for about 30 years. While the Oehler was THE chronograph. I bought the Garmin Xero. I use a chronograph to keep my air rifle where it needs to be. I can even chronograph my rifles at night.
Excellent review, really like the matrix on your reviews..
Thanks SteveTravis and thanks for watching my friend!
Curious what that vertical ring is just ahead of the magnification ring. Is it a magnifying glass to see your turret adjustments better? If so, I sure could use one lol
Hi Charlie! It's a magnifier for the turret from MK Machining: www.mkmachining.com/product/gen-ii-pro-series-turret-magnifier/#tube-size. I also use scope tape from IDTS which I can mark on for multiple target stages: idts-dryfire.com/product/ballistic-tape/ Hope this helps and thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy much thanks. That magnifier will really help me. My 60 year old eyes can see a mile away but my turret is a blur lol. I’ve been running the Gen2 since it first came out and love it, but the parallax on it needs to be continually adjusted. I just got the Gen3 and the parallax is way more forgiving. I guess it’s just the luck of the draw. I was looking at the atacr for my new scope but didn’t like the reticles. Plus I love the locking turrets on the Razors and was disappointed with the atacr not having them. Thanks for your review.
@@charliestoybox2099 No problem, now, that review was a bit brutal on the Razor Gen III, BUT, I'm running two of them now on my PRS bolt gun and gas gun and love them. They fixed everything I mentioned in the video. I sold my ZCO's because I just couldn't justify the cost of them for the bang I got glass wise.
@@The4GunGuy I respect an honest review. Not everyone’s experience is always the same. First time I’ve run across your channel and subbed because of your honesty. Thanks for the link. I’m going to order one of those up. Make that two lol.
Thanks again! Question: Would you recommend bolt or gas for 1st PRS gun for a new shooter?
Thank YOU for watching another one. I would recommend bolt for your first rifle, less to think about when running it, not as "finicky" as a gas gun, and more accurate IMO. I think the MPA PMR2 is the best thing out there right now because it allows you to run in the production division OR open due to its price. And it has EVERYTHING you'll want. If you want to spend less money, then I'd look at the Bergara PRS Comp or the Seekins Havoc HIT Pro. If you're going to reload, then I'd look at any of those in 6mm Creedmoor or the MPA in 6mm BRA. Hope this helps and email me with any questions...the3gunguy@gmail.com.
Thanks for sharing. Newby to long range shooting, and looking to purchase my 1st PRS gun. Great infor.
Hi NSA! Glad you liked it. I just shot this rifle in a PRS match today, a generally difficult match at another range, where targets are usually 1 MOA. I impacted 1 MOA 800 and 900 yd targets (so about the size of a dinner plate). I missed the 1,000 yd due to bad wind call, but overall, this rifle was great! NO jams, or anything. Thanks for watching my friend!
Was it lubricated with the frog lube when it locked up?
Hi Andy! Nope, I had used plain old oil, like I've used before. I just remembered I had the Frog Lube when I started putzing with it after I got the old BCG out. So far, FL has worked great in multiple practice and two matches. Thanks for watching my friend!
Are you able to spot steel impacts out to 850y?
Hi Easy! Definitely yes. When the mirage isn't so bad (which isn't often at my range), my buddy can spot impacts at 1,100 yds. Thanks for watching my friend!
@The4GunGuy awesome! You haven't tried the Maven B5 18x56 by chance have you? I'm cross shopping those for spotting.
@@eazybrah I have not, but I'd love to do a comparison if I ever run across a pair. I'll look for some at the matches.
I’d be talking to Seekins. I don’t see any reason that a BCG should bind up, lubed or not. That’s a pretty big component to fail on a $3000 rifle.
Good point, I may reach out to them.
How do your primers look on the fired cases? I had to swap to a JP HP bolt with my Aero 6.5 build I think the factory firing pin hole was to large causing primer flow and the occasional pierced primer the JP bolt solved the issue.
Hi Dustin! Primers were fine, I still don't know why it ceased up like that, but the new NiB BCG is working great. Thanks for watching my friend!
Awesome! Thanks so much for laying this out, and I love the spreadsheets in your videos!
Hi Dave! Thank YOU for the kind words and for watching my friend! Happy to send any of my spreadsheets to you if you'd like, just email me at "the3gunguy@gmail.com".
I'm convinced on the 6 BRA (Ackley). But I don't want to pick up a new caliber-- I already load 6.5 and 22 cal. 22 BRA is pretty much my dream, but finding dies and such is much harder than 6 bra, which is mainstream. 22BR is everywhere, 22 BR-A however is NOT. Alas, for the 22 cal I suppose the extra capacity and shoulder angle isn't as big a deal. From my time with the 6.5 I have a lot of brass and bullets, but 22 creed seems to me like it's not a good competition round-- too overbore. It's quite a bit of efficiency penalty vs 22br-- lots more powder for just another 100fps or so.
Hi G5Hohn! I agree, and think we get too hung up on this stuff sometimes. I've watched people chase the newest thing, and yes, I did move to the 6BRA, but the reasoning was less recoil, as opposed to the 6.5 CM, which I've attained. The challenge I have with 22 cal stuff is that honestly, in a match, us spotters can miss impacts, and I've even seen the shooter not be able to confirm that he impacted, which is why, for competition, I've shied away from it. Also agree that reloading dies, etc... for the 22 cal stuff is not readily available and another reason to wait and see if it really does catch on. And your final statement about velocity is spot on, and I'm seeing some of the top shooters actually slow down so they can see trace better. Finally, I'm seeing more very good competitors come back to the 6.5 CM cartridge or stick with the 6mm CM round. Hey, thanks for the input and for watching my friend!
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Thank you for the insight into PRS. I’m definitely going to look into it in East Tennessee. Probably one of the most encouraging advice is, it seems the PRS community are full of folks that are willing to help a new shooter and are welcoming to those interested. Thank you for the video and your depth of knowledge. It helped a lot.
Hi Jryan870! Thanks for the kinds words and I'm glad you're considering the PRS sport. The people are really awesome and will loan you any piece of equipment at a match, so don't go out and buy a bunch of stuff, just show up with your rifle, bipod, scope, ammo and you can borrow bags, tripods, etc... Good luck, and thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy I certainly will and thank you again.
I'm here because I'm shooting a match at K&M in west TN at the end of the month. It's my first one, so my 6mm arc build is going to be put to the test. I'm gonna get smoked, but it'll be fun!
@@JAT_4321 Oh man, you'll love that range! First match, GO SLOW. Don't look at how fast the other shooters are moving and try to replicate it...Just go slow, get quality impacts, even if it's just two per stage. Practice before you go and focus on the prep for the stage, checklist just before the buzzer (parallax set properly, magnification set properly, elevation/windage dialed for stage or first target, mag in, bolt back, etc...). Also, look at that target as you get set on the prop after the buzzer, stay on the target and set that rifle so it's pointed in the target direction, THEN, get behind the scope...This costs more time than you think and is one of the biggest challenges I see with new shooters, they get behind the scope too early and are now searching for the target. Watch this video for more information and good luck my friend! ua-cam.com/video/7eNuewuHkeE/v-deo.html
@@The4GunGuy yeah the range looks super awesome. I’m excited. I’m in the process of making sure my data is good to go. I need to do position work as well. Thanks!
Great idea to make a video of these 3 levels/price range scopes. Really helps to make a decision when you see them outlined like this.
Thanks Southern! Just wanted to give folks a flavor of what was what from a differing cost perspective. Thanks for watching my friend!
Very nice Review! I saw another review and they mentioned that there was a caliber limit? Know anything about that? or do you feel it would work on any rifle?
Hi Lupo! I didn't see a caliber limit, but I wouldn't put this or any other scope cam on say a 50 BMG. I think it could handle .308 class with no problem. Thanks for watching my friend!
Did you find that the camera impacted the image quality through the scope significantly?
Hi Matt! No problem with clarity at all. I did have to get used to the eye box, but that didn't take long. Thanks for watching my friend!
you need to check out Steiner HX 15x56 for the money are the best. Won't beat Swarovski, but best for the money.
Hi WP! I LOVE Steiner glass and that brand was my first real PRS scope, so I know what you're talking about. Quality as well. I keep coming back to the Bushnell Forge's (now called the Bushnell Match Pro ED's (I'm releasing a review of them very shortly) as another contender for 1/3 the cost of the Swaro's, but will definitely look at the Steiners! Thanks for watching and the input my friend!
To me the difference between the Discovery and the Burris was the most signifcant. The Burris seemed much brighter and less blurry and with better colors. Although the Razor was definitly a step up again. For me I wouldn't go with less than the Burris.
Hi CD! Totally valid assessment and I agree that if I had been shooting and was going to the "next level" of equipment, I wouldn't go less than the Burris as well. BUT, if I was just starting out, or I had a child just starting out, I'd go with the Discovery for the first year all day long. I tell you, that scope has everything the others have at below $400 and is a great starter scope. I look at what Vortex, Burris, Leupold, and all the other big brands are putting out for $400 and there is no comparison. Hey, thanks for the input and thanks for watching my friend!
Has the Strike Eagle went up that much in price? I am seeing way more expensive than 800.
Hi Ryan! I'm seeing this Mil version on most sights around the $800 price (EuroOptic, OpticsPlanet, etc...). These scopes are getting ridiculous in pricing, which is why I'm trying to provide some alternatives in other videos. Thanks for watching my friend!
Awesome video. I got mine today in Houston & needed this video bad. I actually have a little wood in mine. Can't wait to try switching odometer screen settings I couldn't figure out.. I have 17:05 lift on mine
Hi Butch! My F-150 is still going strong with 55k miles on it (I work from home)! Glad you got yours and enjoy! Thanks for watching my friend!
Thanks for these videos. Very informative. I'm 56 and have decided to get into PRS. My oldest son is as well. I am attending my first match as a spectator next month. Hopefully shoot first match later in year or in spring
Hi Marko! Glad to hear you're getting into the sport...Welcome! I have some other videos on equipment (rifles, scopes, etc...) that may help you as well. My advice is, keep your costs down for the first year to see if you're really going to like it, but get good enough equipment to compete. When you go to the match, ask people who the best squad is and also what squad most of the newer shooters are in, then watch both squads throughout the day to see what makes the good shooters good. Then, work on the fundamentals BEFORE your first match, you'd be surprised how much that will calm you down and give you some confidence going into your first match. Hope this helps and good luck! Thanks for watching my friend!
I have one and the voice recording is my major con. Hopefully it we’ll get fix with a new software update.
Hi J! I think the issue is that the mic is facing away, which is why it picks up the bolt being run very loudly but not voice. We'll see if they can fix that via software. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy Yes, contacted them and they told me exactly what you said, because is water proof the mic is enclosed and pick forward sound, I am able to clean it upa little with the editing software. Great review video. Video quality trumps sound in my opinion.
@Jdelta22nc You have done very much good voice recording in your latest video, very great job. Does require a special software?
@@lindayang330 I am using CapCut Pro, it has a lot of good features.
Great review. Obviously, the direct competitor is the TC2.1, but this comes in at roughly half the price and half the weight. The weight is the biggest factor in my use case because I use it to record matches and it makes balancing the rifle more difficult with a pound hanging off the back of the scope. I did notice the video from the ScopeMate did look a little washed out and I am wondering if that might be due to the mounting solution they provide. Is any ambient light entering the camera due to the combination of collar/rubber rings that you are using? If the clamping ring is gripping the rubber piece there may be a chance for light to enter through the slit between the clamping ring and the camera body. Not saying it's user error, but just curious if you can get better image quality out of the camera. Eager to see the comparison video between the two. Cheers.
its "Circle Full View" version image quality looks better
Hi Copper! It is much lighter than my TriggerCam, which is nice. The washout is the light coming in from the eyepiece side, and I've noticed the same thing with the TC in some instances although it's more pronounced with the SM. As Linda points out below, I needed to use a different view setting, which should help. I'm still getting used to all the settings and probably should have played with it a bit more for the video. Overall, it's a really good product, and if you don't really care about the voice recording, then it's darn near perfect. Thanks for watching my friend!
Cooper start creepin from the woodwork. Lolx
I want to get one of these. I had 2 of the other company’s camera that I used to do videos and they both broke. All electronics issues. The two biggest problems was the weight and the issues downloading the videos. I hope this one is better on the video downloading.
Hi Santos! Darn it, I should have gone over that in the video...Doh! Anyway, you can either just plug it into your PC or do what I do and remove the mini-SD card for the videos, which are stored as MPEG's. Weight is about half of the TriggerCam and as I said in the video, eye relief is "good", but takes some getting used to. If you are free recoiling a larger caliber, you may have some issues, but under my 6mm BRA and 6.5 CM, it held up fine and recoil wasn't an issue. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy Thank you for reply. I try to use my phone for editing the videos so I like to download the videos onto my phone if I can. I just ordered one, so I’ll see how it works. I’m using this for 2-gun and gas gun comps.
thanks for the review. would probably be better sound if they had the mic facing the shooter. what's up with that?? be good to know how it holds up after a couple competitions.
Hi KG! Yeah, a bit of a design flaw there, but it's not that big of a deal for what I use it for. But for hunting, or even in a match, I could see that being an issue. Overall it's a very good product and I'll keep using it due to the ease of use and straight forward operation of the buttons and especially the focus, which is a major pain on my TriggerCam. Thanks for watching my friend!
Hi there, I’ve got a new 6mm barrel on the way and am changing to the 6bra. The plan is to fire form lapua 6br brass. Do you have a reamer print or specs for your reamer? I’m about to pull the trigger on a Manson reamer. It has a a .272 neck and a .104 free bore. I plan to shoot 108 Eldm’s. Any help would be much appreciated.
Hi James! I used www.jgsprecision.com for my reamer, which was spec'd by my gunsmith so it would/could handle many brass brands (Lapua, Alpha, etc...). My free bore is longer than yours, and I got two different pilot sizes. My neck is also a bit larger. I would definitely measure your brass to make sure you're going to be fine, and remember, you can go a bit larger and fire form. Unfortunately, I can't give you the specs for legal purposes. If you contact your reamer manufacturer, they should be able to help you with questions. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy Thanks.
Awesome video. Thank you sir.
Thanks for the kind words and watching another one CJ!
Great insights thank you !
Thanks for the kind words and for watching @linkchen8245!
Thank you! I decided to go with the discovery to get started with prs. It just came in today. Next year I plan on getting the gen 3. I have spent countless hours researching which ‘perfect’ scope I want and I keep coming back to the vortex gen 3.
Hi TexasLarson! I think that is a great decision. As I've said in other videos, I've had three ZCO's and they were/are awesome scopes, but for my level and need, the Gen III more than suffices. I also think you're very smart starting with the Discovery, please let us know how it works for you and holds up? Thanks for watching my friend!
My XTR Pro came with a windage dial that goes over the windage turret in the same way that the "whiteboard" dial goes over the elevation turret. It replaces the windage cap for those that prefer an exposed windage turret.
Hi SK! Man, I wish mine had come with the windage turret! I had to spend another $80 for one. I'm going to see how the XTR performs in matches and may do a follow-up on the initial review. Thanks for the input and for watching my friend!
xtr pro still has notable CA. That's pretty disappointing for that price tier.
This are sloppy made toys and fare away to call them tools 🤮!!
Discovery or Arken ?
Hi McGuffin! I would say, do your own research. I LOVE the reticle in the Discovery vs. the Arken, but I think the Arken is very proven in the US whereas Discovery is trying to get into the market here. I have two Discoveries and have had no issues at all with them so far. But again, do your research. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy no worries, I was just wondering. I have already own an EP5 got it on sale for $ 410.00 USD
$4800 for a Vortex Razor Gen 3? $2999 everywhere I look
Hi JPUND! I was going off of MSRP on their website, which we all know is inflated so $2999 looks like a great deal! I know EuroOptic has some sales a couple times a year and some Mil discounts that bring it down to around $2,200 or so. Thanks for watching my friend!
$2,500 at Euro Optic. Don’t pay $3k. LibertyOptics used to have amazing sales but that’s no more. I paid $2k for mine. I think $2.5k is still a good deal.
@@PolskiHetzen Agreed. I got mine around the $2k mark and when on sale you can find them for that. I just used Vortex's msrp as a guideline. Thanks for watching my friend!